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Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:14:00 -
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Let me get this straight. The Sentinel gets 4 drones and 2 guns and the Keres gets 1 drone and 2 guns. You made a mistake on one of these ships. How about 5 drones on the Keres? |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
287
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:21:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Let me get this straight. The Sentinel gets 4 drones and 2 guns and the Keres gets 1 drone and 2 guns. You made a mistake on one of these ships. How about 5 drones on the Keres? How about no ? For your info ... Sentinel got 0 guns in fact ... show me single person that will put gun on sentinel. It's only weapons are drones.
Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 3L; 2 turrets, 0 launchers
That looks like 2 guns to me. For solo, two guns and a neut would work pretty well. Hell a swarm of them in this configuration would be deadly. |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
287
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:24:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Let me get this straight. The Sentinel gets 4 drones and 2 guns and the Keres gets 1 drone and 2 guns. You made a mistake on one of these ships. How about 5 drones on the Keres? How about no ? For your info ... Sentinel got 0 guns in fact ... show me single person that will put gun on sentinel. It's only weapons are drones.
And if drones are the main weapon system, then the Sentinel needs a slot removed like the other drone boats. |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
287
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:26:00 -
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Destoya wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:
That looks like 2 guns to me. For solo, two guns and a neut would work pretty well. Hell a swarm of them in this configuration would be deadly.
Dunking any hardeners (including DCU), reppers, EW modules, and propulsion modules is a much much stronger tactic than going in and doing an extra 20 DPS from your unbonused autocannons. Stay at 20km now that you have the neut range to do that as there is absolutely no chance the guy can chase you down and kill you
So the guns are irrelevant on the Sentinel. They would be on the Keres as well then as there is no damage bonus. Why doesn't it get more than one drone? |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
287
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:52:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Let me get this straight. The Sentinel gets 4 drones and 2 guns and the Keres gets 1 drone and 2 guns. You made a mistake on one of these ships. How about 5 drones on the Keres? How about no ? For your info ... Sentinel got 0 guns in fact ... show me single person that will put gun on sentinel. It's only weapons are drones. And if drones are the main weapon system, then the Sentinel needs a slot removed like the other drone boats. No its only when you get drone bonus (tristan tracking/hp , vexor damage/hp). And hell no again. I'm happy for once one balance pass is not straightforward gallente win. Thanks CCP.
So as long as Amarr is being balanced we shouldn't balance anything else? Sounds like a solid balance pass to me. Ship it. |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
287
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Posted - 2013.10.02 15:54:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Destoya wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:
That looks like 2 guns to me. For solo, two guns and a neut would work pretty well. Hell a swarm of them in this configuration would be deadly.
Dunking any hardeners (including DCU), reppers, EW modules, and propulsion modules is a much much stronger tactic than going in and doing an extra 20 DPS from your unbonused autocannons. Stay at 20km now that you have the neut range to do that as there is absolutely no chance the guy can chase you down and kill you So the guns are irrelevant on the Sentinel. They would be on the Keres as well then as there is no damage bonus. Why doesn't it get more than one drone? I heard its been done specifically to bother you personally, but who knows.
Well it is Rise doing the balance pass. He is probably getting back at me for trolling him ;-) |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:08:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Okay I've updated the OP with the newest iteration.
Highlights include:
Bonuses adjusted for Kitsune, Keres and Hyena to shorten the range slightly for each
Mass increased for all four by 10%
Lowered lock range to match t1 disruption frigs
Lowered signature radius for all four
Small adjustments to maxvelocity for some and drone bandwidth tweaks for Sentinel and Keres
Two main things going on.
First, lowering the ewar ranges should draw them in a bit closer to the fight. The Kitsune will still be the longest effective range EAF but that's natural to ECM and there's not much more we can do. It was limited before only by the absurdly low lock range and while I don't want it to be out at 100k being effective, there's also no sensible way to pull it closer than this, but I think that's fine.
Second, adding mass and making some maxvelocity changes while also lowering their sig radius should make them easier to catch for frigs and other anti-support, while also increasing their survivability vs larger targets trying to shoot them from far away. This helps push them towards a more recon-ish play style and further from interceptors, which is what we want.
I expect that those of you hoping to use these will be a little disappointed, while those of expecting to fight against them might not think this is enough. Hopefully that means we are fairly close to a good spot for them. Regardless, please let me know what you think.
Both sides not agreeing isn't a good sign. Just because the US government can't agree on things, doesn't mean you should follow suit.
The Sentinel is still way too strong. |
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